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Politicians still don't get it?

People despise Westminster because many MPs don't answer to them, but only to other people in SW1.  Indeed, in four of the past five general elections less than a tenth of seats changed hands.  Even in the great 1997 landslide, seven out of ten seats proved safe.

It's precisely because so many MPs answer inward to Westminster, rather than outward to the voter, that they've become less and less effective at holding government to account.  For small-state conservatives - and for Britain - this has been a disaster; more regulation, stronger quangos, higher taxes, bigger and more intrusive government.  

Change must means making politicians answer more directly to voters.  Direct democracy, you might call it.

But again and again those in SW1 propose changes that would mean the precise opposite.  Take the latest proposal - by the Speakers' review - to force democratic political parties to publish lists of who they reject as candidates.

This suggestion would mean that political parties would answer inward to SW1 for how they run their own processes.  Literally.  Democratic political parties would be legally required to report who they didn't select to run for office.  Worse, it could begin to extend formal state regulation over internal candidate selection within parties.

This half-witted idea does nothing to ensure our politics has the choice and competition we need to drive up standards at Westminster, nor ensure a wider representation of opinion in Parliament.   

If Speaker Bercow and co really wish to broaden representation in the Commons, they should try to encourage the democratisation of the selection process.  That means people power, not statutory duties.  They should be looking for ways to make parties answer outward to voters, not to yet more people like them.  Let local people decide what constitutes representative - not some quota quango in London.

In the one seat where the Tories have tried it, proper open primaries have a 100% success rate in selecting women candidates.  My hunch is that after the Gosport open primary results are in, that record could well remain intact.

Even where the Tories are only running imperfect open caucus meetings to choose candidates, residents are turning up in their droves to back candidates with a broad range of views and backgrounds.

As I proposed in this Ten Minute Rule Bill, it's perfectly possible to enable political parties that wish to, to hold full open primaries in any seat they wish.  And all at zero extra cost to the taxpayer by "piggy backing" local primaries on to pre-existing ballots.

And why just hold them in marginal seats?  If open primaries were held in so-called safe seats, we'd soon move to a situation where all MPs in the Commons had to face properly competitive election contests in order to remain in the House.  You know, like in a proper democracy ....

That's an idea that’d make our politicians truly accountable.  It wasn't recommended by the great and the good on the Speakers' panel, unsurprisingly.  Is it because they don't get it, or because they choose not to?

Posted on 26 November 2009 by Douglas Carswell

Comments

Open primaries are a red herring, it does not change the fact that parties control seats on a too flimsy a basis and leading to elections being won on tiny (1 in 5 of the electorate) popular support. A candidate in our system represents a party so only members of that party should have a right and duty to select their candidate. If you wish to give the voters choice in a FPTP system (which I appose I would like to a more proportional system perhaps total representation) then surly a form limited vote (or statutory extra candidates) would be are more appropriate system as then at a general election you could choose which candidates from your particular party you feel best represents you.

Posted on 26 November 2009 12:09 by Daniel Worley

If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on getting what you've always got. If you want a different result, DO something different.

You won't change it from within. If like a lot of us you want Direct Democracy, then the ONLY way to get ii is through Democracy...ie enough people vote for it.

It's not on offer to the electorate except through voting UKIP

Posted on 26 November 2009 13:18 by libertarian

What of those membership paying Tory party members? Some of them are seem to feel that they are now no longer as important to the party as they feel paying their subs deserves.

Having initially been sceptical, I support the proper open primaries. However, is there something that can be given (back) to the grass-roots activists to keep them interested and involved?

Posted on 26 November 2009 13:57 by Mick Anderson

@Daniel: Party Members still get to choose the candidate shortlist.



Posted on 26 November 2009 14:40 by Ashley Wills

Douglas, We thought we'd finally achieved a fair democratic society with the arrival of universal suffrage in the early 20th century here in the UK. So now we're all equal in the decision making process but despite this there are still huge imbalances in our society which need to be addressed.


The next step would logically entail democratising the states finances which have caued so many problems recently. Taxation needs to addressed and the rewards from government looked at too. Why should some people in society be more equal than others under the present arrangements?

Posted on 26 November 2009 19:14 by chefdave

And how about local politics? Party politics in local elections has eroded the quality of the candidates we have to choose from when we vote and as people tend to vote for the party they always vote for the particular qualities and beliefs of the candidate doesn't enter into the decision.

Posted on 26 November 2009 19:38 by Chris Southall

It doesn't matter. Select an MP and they will be whipped into the lobbies.

However, if you have referenda by proxy, the electorate control you, and the MPs will hate it.

It's cheap too. We can get rid of the fraudsters in the Lords too boot. When the electorate say yes or no, the Lords aren't needed.

That deals with laws.

To deal with corrupt MPs we need the right of recall.

Then its elections every 5 years, fixed terms.

Nick

Posted on 26 November 2009 19:54 by Nick

Shift the salary of MP to local tax revenue. That way they directly defraud their own constituents when behaving inappropriately, rather than simply drawing funds from a central fund. It may help suppress the idea that MPs represent the government to the constituents, rather than representing their electorate in Parliament. Draw up code of conduct with constituents able to bring civil prosecution if they are breached

Posted on 26 November 2009 22:05 by Mat

You are completely correct when you say the general public have nothing but contmpt for MPs (sorry, Douglas) For me personally it's nothing to do with expenses. It's to do with not being heard, not being represented and having no choice. You can say what you like, there is nothing between any of the parties at all on most issues. Even when we do vote, nobody ever listens to us - e.g. on Europe, on immigration, on crime....and we (who actually live in the real world and who see the absolute lawlessness and contempt for authority on the streets and in the classrooms) really cannot see the point in voting...at all..for anyone.

It comes as no surprise someone now wants to control who can actually get to be on a selection list....they must after all bow to the altar of political correctness first and foremost....it goes hand in hand with out unelected president of Europe...we don't want any of it but politicians will ensure we have it anyway!

Posted on 26 November 2009 22:33 by Iain

@chefdav

Do you also ask questions like why are some people better looking, why are some really good at football. Should those people with higher IQ be forced to share with people who have a lower IQ

I have no idea what you mean by democratising state finances. I suspect you mean taking more tax from rich people but can't be sure so will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you also mean that the idle, unfit, layabout feckless should stop draining the nations resources too.

Posted on 27 November 2009 11:24 by libertarian

You're a sound man Carswell. Keep it up.

Posted on 29 November 2009 05:22 by duncan binks

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